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  BIG NEWS - UK Gov't to Stop Watchtower Blood Teaching?

  by skeeter1 in

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  this below just came up on the wire and is higher in rank than the globe articlethe watchtower is going into spin control overtimehttp://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?newsid=1725new rules could threaten charity status of jehovah's witnesses.

  religious intelligence ltd, uk - 19 minutes ago.

  several jehovahs witnesses charities in the uk expressed concern that the draft guidance could affect their beliefs on blood transfusion.

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  I have sent a letter by email to the Charity Commission.

  Quoting the Blood brochure, 1994 Awake magazine and case law (both UK and European Court of Human Rights).

  will see what happens!

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  Look at what they are doing at dub receptions.

  by darth frosty in

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  well it would be fun.... .

  http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?contentid=403233.

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  I wish they were doing that at dub receptions - it would have made them far more entertaining!!!!!!!

  But no lets have pass the parcel for the children instead!

  Yawn!
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  Why does the WT society not open its own non blood hospitals?

  by Gill in

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  2. medical

  why does the watch tower society not build and operate its own hospitals for its people who refuse to have blood in their treatment programme?.

  surely, if bloodless surgery and treatment is so superior and they could prove it with their own statistics and survival rates they could show that blood should not be used.. so, what are they afraid of?.

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  I have a strong feeling that if they opened a JW run and staffed hospital that there would be permanent vacancies for skilled professionals (ie doctors, qualified nurses, physiotherapists, counsellors etc).

  However when they advertise for cleaners, nursing assistants, unskilled painters and decorators and gardners they would be overflowing with applications.

  I am also guessing that they wouldn't much difficulty filling vacancies in their legal department! But I would recommend that they book a slot at the High Court on standing weekly basis for all those court orders that are going to be needed. Court orders would be needed not to ensure that a refusing patient gets treatment, but to ensure that the medical team give the treatment in the first place.

  Also - the hospital would have to be closed two evenings a weekend, and every Sunday morning. Also it would close every memorial night, circuit assembly and district assembly weekend. Also every Wednesday morning for 3 hours and Saturday morning for 3 hours to ensure that all the JWs get to go out in the ministry.

  And before the patients are allowed to eat their meals a prayer must be said. This is going to cause them extreme difficulty - will they have a prayer said for each individual patient? Will they expect every patient to attend the main hall in the hospital for the prayer? Or will they run a tannoy system so that the prayer can be heard across the hospital? And what happens if a patient is undergoing surgery at the time of the prayer? Will every member of the surgical team be required to close their eyes and stop operating for the duration of the prayer?

  Oh the difficulties!!!!!

  I am guessing that, on balance, and for the safety of all concerned, they had better not open a hospital!
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  Special Needs talk at our Hall tonite...

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  talk was about appreciating jehovah's provisions, something like that.... the po gave the talk.

  apparently, after the last co visit, our congo got a letter from headquarters, informing us that our numbers are wayyyy down.

  several inactive publishers, several more irregular, poor meeting attendance, and our hourly average is less than the national average (8.3 compared to 9.9).

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  That is definitely an illustration to keep in mind!

  And what a good illustration it was - you clearly attended the theocratic ministry school when you were working on "Use of Illustrations"! LOL!!!!
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  What was the first mean/unjust thing you saw as a JW that affected you?

  by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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  think back.

  you can list more than one.

  .it's ok. how did you rationalize the actions of others?

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  My daughter has physical and learning disabilities.

  When she was a baby we had to keep her away from infection as something like a cold would result in heart failure and hospital admission.

  So before the meeting I would stay in the car with my daughter and only go in when the song started, and then leave straight away. Theory was that it would drastically reduce the number of cretins breathing, coughing and sneezing all over her.

  One Sunday afternoon an elders wife said to me that surely "it would be better that my daughter die now rather than later".

  I was so shocked I didn't know what to say.

  Now I would give her such a verbal dressing down that she would not know what had hit her.

  But back then I was so shocked, stunned, upset, and I didn't know what to say.

  I left the religion in October 2000.

  Best thing I have ever done!

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  True to thee 'til death: why Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood

  by Bryan in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i haven't seen this posted..... http://www.journal-online.co.uk/articles/show/2719.

  true to thee 'til death: why jehovah's witnesses refuse bloodfrom a sociological perspective, blood is a powerful symbol of allegiance for the witnesses simply because it is unimportant to other faith communitiesprint article.

  post to facebook.

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  This is a really good article - worth bringing to the top of the board again!!
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  BBC The One Show

  by KW13 in

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  just watched the part about jehovah's witnesses - it was very brief and didn't go to any side, very neutral, possibly more positive than negative.

  anyway after they showed that; i got in contact and offered to share my experiences with someone from there as they asked for anyone interested in doing so, to get in contact.. please please please do the same!!!!.

  bbc.co.uk/theoneshow and get in touch!!.

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  I have sent in my comment to The One Show.

  Basically to say that I was a JW for 20 years.

  Was in the "blood issue" dilemma with my daughter more than once and so now first hand the hell it plays with your mind!

  No longer a JW

  That to consent to a blood transfusion is taken as an automatic diassociation, ie shunning, life falls apart.

  That in law every adult with capacity has to make own decisions regarding healthcare without undue pressure or influence. Therefore how can the threat of disfellowshipping/disassocation enable an adult to exercise that legal right?

  Is this religions belief? Or emotional blackmail and mind control?

  Enjoying freedom

  A potted version!
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  Recipe Question

  by Sunspot in

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  if i had any pride i would not even ask this question or show how stupid i am.....but here goes:.

  i saw either on the martha stewart show or another i watched last week---where they took cookie dough and pushed it into and around a pie plate as a crust and baked it before putting the filling in.

  i bought some pillsbury cookie dough, did what i had seen them do....and popped it into the oven for the amount of time it took for it to get browned.. the problem was----that the "giant cookie" rose up to look like an already full baked pie....and the center stayed moist and chewy---not like a "crust" at all.

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  .....and to finish my response...... (my reply was posted before I had finished it!!).....

  I have never tried this before but I wonder whether you are supposed to part bake it, then put the filling in, then continue the rest of the baking time.

  Like baking blind with pastry.

  Just a thought!

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  Recipe Question

  by Sunspot in

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  if i had any pride i would not even ask this question or show how stupid i am.....but here goes:.

  i saw either on the martha stewart show or another i watched last week---where they took cookie dough and pushed it into and around a pie plate as a crust and baked it before putting the filling in.

  i bought some pillsbury cookie dough, did what i had seen them do....and popped it into the oven for the amount of time it took for it to get browned.. the problem was----that the "giant cookie" rose up to look like an already full baked pie....and the center stayed moist and chewy---not like a "crust" at all.

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  Hi Sunspot!

  I have never tried this before
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  Donation Arrangement

  by Frenchy in

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  2. friends

  i am curious as to how many of you are completely comfortable with the 'new' donation arrangement.

  (okay, i know it's not new anymore but...) do you prefer it over the old way?

  (i'd like to leave these two magazines with you for a contribution of fifty cents).

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  I would like to bet that the decision to stop charging for the literature was forced due to some regulation (ie couldn't charge and keep charitable status), not because of some altruistic decision to allow people who couldn't afford the literature the opportunity to read them without being out of pocket.

  Very rarely did anyone offer me money for the magazines after they were placed "without charge".